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Old 04-18-2016, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone familiar with Yuri Bezmenov?

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Old 04-18-2016, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for the warning, but it's been 50+ years and no communist/marxist US.

I had a hard time listening to it because he's wrong on so many things.

He did a decent job of promoting the big red scare tho.
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea, he was a johnBircher..nothing says current events than name dropping Yuri Andropov .
You know Amazon Prime has some old FiringLine videos from the early 60's you might enjoy+

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Old 04-18-2016, 03:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool vid.

My bigger picture opinion.. which may have nothing to do with anything in this thread:

Absolute belief is a mistake.
When you settle on a belief, what you're doing is no different than looking at a framed painting on a wall and calling it reality. Now, obviously you wouldn't call a painting 'reality', because you can see clearly that it's just a painting: you can see the wall it hangs from, you can hear the people around you -- clearly the painting isn't reality, or at least, you would realize that the painting is only one constituent of a far more complex reality.
But when you truly believe something, anything it doesn't matter, let's say, "I am living in a democracy." Well, you're still looking at the painting, but this time you cannot have any concept of the wall, the people, the world beyond the painting, because to do so would dissemble the belief. In exposing yourself to this greater breadth of information, you would be forced to amend your belief to consider the new information: "I am living in a democracy.. with imperfect, disproportionate representation.. with corruption.. that may not be truly democratic.. that filters information.. etc"
You will find that, given consideration of increasing information, it becomes harder and harder to describe the belief you thought you had.
The reason for this is obvious. Belief is a placeholder that gets used in place of a lack of information, or more precisely: belief is a mechanism used to initiate a course of action in the face of a presently insurmountable lack of information, or an inability to process an abundance of information. Either way and in short, it's something we do to help guide our actions in the face of a time constraint (mortality).
Now, the amount of information available to us is potentially infinite, so one must concede to some form of belief (stance, opinion, etc) to carry with us through these intermediate steps of our lives (our moment to moment actions). Viewed in this way, belief in itself is certainly not a bad thing -- some degree of it is required to function properly, to help guide our actions. But recognize that it's something that comes in degrees, that 'belief' is a continuous and malleable thing - it's adaptive, and it needs to be recognized and appreciated as such.
When belief becomes absolute, when you become devout in your beliefs, what has happened is that you've become shut off to new information. This aspect of yourself, which has the potential to adapt to the dynamic experience of life, has been disabled. When this state is reached, it doesn't matter in the least what final belief you've arrived at: in the face of an ever-changing reality providing us with ever-increasing amounts of information, the belief is automatically redundant at best, and malignant at worst.
And this relationship between belief and information is quite interestingly reinforced when we ask the question: What if we have all the information? Then surely there is some 'final belief'.
Well, if there is a limit on information, and if you had all the information there is, belief itself is rendered meaningless. By its very conceptional basis, belief is one which hinges upon the limitation of subjectivity. To have all information is to lose all subjectivity, so to ask something that understands everything what it believes in is paradoxical by nature.


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Belief is the death of intelligence. The moment you commit yourself to believing something you no longer need to think about it or be critical about oncoming information. It just is because you belief.
Constantly challenge your assumptions or your assumptions will challenge you.
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It also depends on what you believe in to be frank
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ISLAM is taking over the world, at least Europe and Canada. Nations within nations.
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I'm more worried about 10 commandment law being crammed down my throat than I am about Sharia law taking hold anytime soon.
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A lot of that stuff is already law tho.

A couple sketchy ones but other than that 10 commandments aint even bad
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And lets look at this for a second:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch

Koch sr made his money in the soviet union. Now his children are some of the two most named people for subversion in the US. I think everyone remembers that the Tea Party was originally a libertarian movement, but at a certain point maybe in 09 it became some sort of evangelical pro zionism anti environmentalism creep party. And now we've got one of their disciples, Ted Cruz, making a decent run for president after being a senator from one of our largest states. That was almost entirely financed by Koch brothers. Those were the years we came to know the name Koch.
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you're kinda all the over the place with this, Bezmenov and the koch's are ideologically joined at the hip..
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I know they donated money to his Senate campaign
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you're kinda all the over the place with this, Bezmenov and the koch's are ideologically joined at the hip..
exactly my point
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A lot of that stuff is already law tho.

A couple sketchy ones but other than that 10 commandments aint even bad
No doubt, along with thousands and thousands of other man made laws.

Take away the sketchy ones and you have the golden rule. The sketchy ones are the problem. The belief that the supernatural has a set of laws that trump the man made laws are what lead to fat bitch clerks disobeying those laws in the name of religious liberty. Besides, are the 10 commandments the religious zealots want the rest of us to adhere to really the 10 commandments in the bible?
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