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Old 06-13-2016, 06:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation 53 people in Orlando

will have to pay for their own ambulance and medical bills as did the survivors of all other attacks, accidents, or other medical issues. The ones in Paris, Brussels, and London have their's taken care of through socialized medicine.
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The number of dead and wounded has been all over the fucking place with this one.
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I would imagine most, if not all, victims had some form of medical insurance. I believe they are required so by law
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i can't believe it took this long but this shooting has really made me realize how many ignorant bigots im surrounded by (irl, not the hooka)
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I would imagine most, if not all, victims had some form of medical insurance. I believe they are required so by law
There are still co-pays. Our medical society will most likely make junkies out of most of them by addicting them to "opiods." Gotta love that word they just conjured up to sugar coat opiates. The ambulance ride is expensive and insurance usually pays about half. Most will probably max out their deductible.

This goes for all the survivors of all these attacks all the way back to Columbine. There are funds available for assistance, mostly from charity. Some still may not have coverage.

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/201...pta-dnt-ac.cnn
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I was like "I wonder how patriot will try to make this fit his political narrative...oh."
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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yea. I know all about co-pays and deductibles. I had a serious medical scare far away from home early last year and ended up being transferred from one hospital to another and the private ambulance bill was outrageous. Luckily my insurance paid it no problems. The hospital i ended up in was extremely posh, the chef studied under Wolfgang Puck and was an executive chef at Tavern on the Green, and let me tell you the menu was outstanding, i haven't eaten better before or since. I met my deductible pretty quickly.

On the bright side those who got transported from the shooting scene in the back of pick up trucks probably got freebies.

Also, gunshot wounds can be pretty painful, so i don't think you're getting away from prescribing painkillers..based on the extensive injuries i've read about I don't think aspirin is going to do much for them
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Co-pays, right. Dont forget the premiums paid to have the privilege of those co-pays, , ,
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My premiums, deductibles were pretty reasonable, I miss the coverage, but not the job.
I'd imagine many of these victims are looking at long hospital stays , and a lifetime of pain
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very sad he must have a real sharp shooter to kill so many people with a pistol and an ar 15
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I don't believe he used an AR-15, and considering the amount of time that the assault took place, and the enclosed space most people were shot in, sharp-shooting was not required
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Good find on the weapon

Man always comes up with bigger and better ways to kill his fellow man.

Making the wounded and injured pay for medical on top adds insult to injury. Watch the Michael Moore movies "Sicko" and "Where To Invade Next." Obamacare only made a law to make all Americans have medical coverage enforced by the IRS as a tax. Most of Europe and Canada all have socialized medicine which works the opposite of capitalistic medical. Do ya think cannabis would aid the wounded for the rest of their lives, just like the soldiers returning from the battlefield?

Good song for that is Sam Stone by John Prine.
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yea, but marijuana doesn't help withthe acute/immediate pain that gunshot wounds inflict
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I think we can just simply this back and forth by saying that these victims have a good chance of coming out of this ordeal struggling financially somehow, due to our shit tier healthcare system.

Random specifics aside, i think we can agree on that.
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I dont agree on that, there's no reason to believe that any of those victims couldnt have had access to perfectly fine healthcare.
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You mean other than the fact that medical debt, even with healthcare, is massively common in the US?

Yeah no reason at all.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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There's no such thing as fine healthcare in this country. More like less broke than I would be without it.
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