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Old 12-18-2016, 08:04 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Old 12-23-2016, 06:12 AM   #243 (permalink)
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Let's be honest here//it wasn't the fact that the DNC's and Podestas emails were hacked that's pissing of the "liberal" establishment. it's the fact they were made public.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:46 AM   #244 (permalink)
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I put full blame on the Democratic party for this sham of an election.
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Old 12-23-2016, 11:39 AM   #245 (permalink)
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Specifically Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. May she burn in hell like the rest of the nazis.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:15 PM   #246 (permalink)
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She had prodding I'm sure. The Clinton's needed to go away and they wouldn't. Now we're fucked.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:51 PM   #247 (permalink)
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Specifically Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. May she burn in hell like the rest of the nazis.
DWS is the tribe tho
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:56 PM   #248 (permalink)
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She had prodding I'm sure. The Clinton's needed to go away and they wouldn't. Now we're fucked.
We shouldnt have expected any different. The rich rulers cling to power until it is pried from them. Has there ever beenba time in history that wasnt the case?
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:16 PM   #249 (permalink)
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DWS is the tribe tho
Most Dem voters I've talked to are 100% Bern/ Progressively Progressive people.
The party people have spoken.


Clinton votes were mostly un-Trump votes....
As the Trump votes were mostly un-Clinton votes....

I don't know more than a half a dozen who supported Trump or Clinton first,
is what I'm saying.

I'm speaking as a man who has a 60/40 group of friends.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:18 PM   #250 (permalink)
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Best part of leaks was when they were considering framing bern as anti semitic
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Regardless of what was shared....

How something feel about foregin intervention into our election cycle?
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:33 PM   #252 (permalink)
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I like that this is presented as a new phenomena
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I like that this is presented as a new phenomena
You don't feel this is different in its explicit nature?

If not.

Can you take some time to comment beyond a sentence,
And cite examples of ways you feel this meddling is normal? (edit: pertaining to US elections)



Or do you feel that this is only a big deal due to the pervasiveness of technology
And modern transparency of the modern age of the Internet?
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Old 12-23-2016, 05:05 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Regardless of what was shared....

How something feel about foregin intervention into our election cycle?
Feels like it is what our nation deserves. Karmic justice.
The chaotic part me loves it tbh.

Same thing with the European colonial powers being effected by immigration. Love that shit.
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Really though im honestly in favor of the type of "intervention" we supppsedly just were effected by.
All that happened, supppsedly, was another nation released documemts showing shady behavior of some in government. Simply informed us of such.

Obviously there is alterior motive, but there always is.

It is just like if some guy was running for President in another country but secretly was a total scumbag liar, and pur government just releasung some info letting the people know what's up.

Yeah it's meddling but meh.


Ultimately though i dont even believe the story of the Russians hacking anything. I think another group did the hacking. The dem party has just has a serious random war boner for russia right now. I think russia is making moves right now and will take advantage, but not directly intervening. And certainly not the level we in the West have employed.

Tbh id be more suspicious of what role the fossil fuel companies played, and will play, in the election. I mean we have a ceo of exxon in the Whitehouse for fucks sake.
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I don't believe the Russians did it either but the idea that we have the right to take any moral high ground on foreign intervention is laughable regardless of the nature of the intervention. It's like bitching about anyone using WMD's and being the only country to use the ultimate of WMD's. Fuck us, we should be bitch slapped.
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Are you aware of The Donald's willingness to a nuclear arms race and to use it as leverage?

How is that different at all?
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I don't believe the Russians did it either but the idea that we have the right to take any moral high ground on foreign intervention is laughable regardless of the nature of the intervention. It's like bitching about anyone using WMD's and being the only country to use the ultimate of WMD's. Fuck us, we should be bitch slapped.
As other countries have retaliated for meddling,
So ought we, in an appropriate manner?

I'm definitely not pretending like the USA never has interviened.
Nor do I begrudge other countries pushing back.
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Are you aware of The Donald's willingness to a nuclear arms race and to use it as leverage?

How is that different at all?
Yeah im aware. I never said him and the republicans weren't warhawks too.

I think such talk is deeply disturbing. Like every other thing sbout this imcoming administration.
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As other countries have retaliated for meddling,
So ought we, in an appropriate manner?

I'm definitely not pretending like the USA never has interviened.
Nor do I begrudge other countries pushing back.
They're retaliating for our initial meddling. So we are retaliating for a retaliation. We are king at meddling.
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