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Old 07-13-2017, 06:13 AM   #1241 (permalink)
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i'm not convinced that allowing pro-life liberals into the party would lessen pro-choice's political representation, rather than leaving it exactly the same. and in many areas people vote solely on their pro-life stance, and the choice is allowing a pro-life liberal into the fold or just letting it stay perpetually conservative on all issues. i'd rather the former.

also i agree that bodily autonomy is a liberal cause, but so is protecting the vulnerable (which pro-lifers believe they're doing). if you believe a fetus is a person, then deciding your stance on abortion is about weighing two conflicting liberal ideals.
if we are talking about classic liberalism, the greatest possible expansion of individual liberty bounded only by avoiding the disenfranchisement of the liberties of others should lead to only one obvious conclusion on the abortion debate

why the party of deregulation is so interested in dictating the decision-making authority of others is so beyond me
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:31 PM   #1242 (permalink)
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About this trump russia thing. You would think that your average old school red blooded american would not want to support a past candidate and current president that was preferenced by Russia?

What amount involvement is questionable but what isnt questionable is that russia wanted trump to be prez.. I would have thought with the history and attitudes toward russia this would cause more backlash from the drooling paranoid bunch of hick fucktards living in that beautiful piece of land to the south of me...
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Old 07-13-2017, 06:11 PM   #1244 (permalink)
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If it goes against any combination of the Blacks, Fags, Jews, Liberals or Govment, those hick fucktards will fight until the ends of the earth no matter how hypocritical the fight is.
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Old 07-14-2017, 08:20 AM   #1245 (permalink)
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About this trump russia thing. You would think that your average old school red blooded american would not want to support a past candidate and current president that was preferenced by Russia?

What amount involvement is questionable but what isnt questionable is that russia wanted trump to be prez.. I would have thought with the history and attitudes toward russia this would cause more backlash from the drooling paranoid bunch of hick fucktards living in that beautiful piece of land to the south of me...
An article in the Times today tracked the right's growing admiration of Putin -- a strongman who lashes out at enemies (press, dissenters, and foreign), perceived to be the vanguard of Christian society (anti-gay, anti-Muslim, patriarchal), and opposed to Obama. It is no surprise they would shrug off Russian meddling because they do not see Russia as an enemy. They admire today's Russian society.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/us...ervatives.html
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About this trump russia thing. You would think that your average old school red blooded american would not want to support a past candidate and current president that was preferenced by Russia?

What amount involvement is questionable but what isnt questionable is that russia wanted trump to be prez.. I would have thought with the history and attitudes toward russia this would cause more backlash from the drooling paranoid bunch of hick fucktards living in that beautiful piece of land to the south of me...
Russia didn't want Clinton. It's like most Americans voting for the lesser of two evils when there are better candidates on the ballot.
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Old 07-14-2017, 09:35 AM   #1247 (permalink)
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An article in the Times today tracked the right's growing admiration of Putin -- a strongman who lashes out at enemies (press, dissenters, and foreign), perceived to be the vanguard of Christian society (anti-gay, anti-Muslim, patriarchal), and opposed to Obama. It is no surprise they would shrug off Russian meddling because they do not see Russia as an enemy. They admire today's Russian society.

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Old 07-14-2017, 09:46 AM   #1248 (permalink)
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Maybe a competitor is a better way of expressing the sentiment?
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Whatever they are, they have nukes. Real nukes. It behooves us to find common causes instead of this constant bashing. Putin is a thug. So what, we are the biggest thug on the planet. Russia is regional in scope whereas we strive for world hegemony. Maybe if we stopped trying to surround them with NATO countries, like we promised when the cold war ended, they'd act more to our liking.
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Old 07-14-2017, 03:47 PM   #1250 (permalink)
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Fuck.

I just realized we're between Russia and the USA.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:21 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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I don't think there would be a safe place on earth if the US and Russia go nuclear.
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anywhere without any influence or relevance on the international stage would be a fine start
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:22 PM   #1253 (permalink)
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We have military bases in the vast majority of countries and nukes throughout Europe. South Pacific island nations would probably be the best bet but they'll be underwater soon. I wonder who China would side with? Probably us since their economy is so dependant on exporting to the US.
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:39 PM   #1254 (permalink)
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If the US and Russia exchange nukes the economy of the world will nosedive so that might not be as much of a factor regarding China. If enough are detonated we won't be waiting for climate change to bring upon the demise of the planet.
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I want to smell Beijing after it got nuked fucking boiled maggot chinese motherfuckers is what that shit smells like i tell you what
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