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Old 04-25-2005, 12:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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U.S.: Investigate Rumsfeld, Tenet for Torture

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New York, April 24, 2005)—The United States should name a special prosecutor to investigate the culpability of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and ex-CIA Director George Tenet in cases of detainee torture and abuse, Human Rights Watch said in releasing a new report today.

The report, Getting Away with Torture? Command Responsibility for the U.S. Abuse of Detainees, is issued on the eve of the first anniversary of the publication of the Abu Ghraib photos (April 28). It presents substantial evidence warranting criminal investigations of Rumsfeld and Tenet, as well as Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, formerly the top U.S. commander in Iraq, and Gen. Geoffrey Miller the former commander of the prison camp at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

“The soldiers at the bottom of the chain are taking the heat for Abu Ghraib and torture around the world, while the guys at the top who made the policies are going scot free,” said Reed Brody, special counsel for Human Rights Watch. “That’s simply not right.”

Human Rights Watch said that there was now overwhelming evidence that U.S. mistreatment and torture of Muslim prisoners took place not merely at Abu Ghraib but at facilities throughout Afghanistan and Iraq as well as at Guantánamo and at “secret locations” around the world, in violation of the Geneva Conventions and the laws against torture.

“This pattern of abuse across several countries did not result from the acts of individual soldiers who broke the rules,” said Brody. “It resulted from decisions made by senior U.S. officials to bend, ignore, or cast rules aside.”
look at the report, tell me what you think.

i dont kno much about international and U.S. law, but i cant see how that report might be misleading or particularly "spun" and it doesnt read like a conspiricy theory or leftist/liberal propaganda.

this just seems really serious to me, really seriously bad
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http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005...usint10545.htm
U.S.: Abu Ghraib Only the 'Tip of the Iceberg'
The crimes at Abu Ghraib are part of a larger pattern of abuses against Muslim detainees around the world. The coercive methods approved by senior U.S. officials and widely employed over the last three years include tactics that the United States has repeatedly condemned as barbarity and torture when practiced by others.
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Thanks for the those links, guys...came in handy.
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I watched a docuemtary on the cuban base we have, and things that they did

not good stuff at all
makes me sick on be an american as well
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What was the documentary called?
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look at the report, tell me what you think.

i dont kno much about international and U.S. law, but i cant see how that report might be misleading or particularly "spun" and it doesnt read like a conspiricy theory or leftist/liberal propaganda.

this just seems really serious to me, really seriously bad
Remember when you posted that link to that study done in the 70's at a California school on the mentality of prison guards v. prisioners?

That pretty much summed up human thought in a mob structure nicely.

It's really not a matter of theory being labled "liberal" or "conservative." Its a matter of the issue being suppressed or the majority of people just don't care anymore.
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