California decriminalization

doobie · 10-13-2010, 12:09 PM

With the governor decriminalizing marijuana for ounce or less possession to a $100 fine and no criminal history that takes effect on 1/1/11 what is the feeling in california? I would seriously consider moving there if its going to be as lax as the netherlands or so.. whats the scoop?

The Rev · 10-13-2010, 01:25 PM

There are few threads in A&P where the debate over this issue continues still. I think we're all hoping for something a little better in California after all is said and done.

The Rev

~1~ · 10-13-2010, 04:38 PM

Sadly it is a ploy to circumvent Prop. 19

Folks who may have been for legalizing because they see the current laws as a bit harsh and feel marijuana isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be might support Prop. 19 on principal.

Arnie comes along and says "Okay, we'll decriminalize" so those folks who may have voted for complete legalization now feel, well okay they're not going to get 'as busted' as they would have before so no need to go opening those flood gates of evil that LEO has been diligently holding tight since the thirties.

Let's see how it shakes out between Nov. 2nd and Jan. 1st.

**SageTree** · 10-13-2010, 05:11 PM

His choice to decrim could also just be used somehow as further backing to just take the big step and stop fucking around.

OldMan&TheWeed · 10-13-2010, 07:17 PM

As a Californian I have to say it's a move in the right direction. It matters little if prop 19 wins or looses; the tide has turned in the marijuana debate as it has in the gay-rights debate. Anyone on the other side of these issues is on the wrong side of history period.

**Mafoo** · 10-13-2010, 07:28 PM

anyone know if this will be retroactive? as in will my pot ticket from several years ago be removed from my file at the court house? that would be sweet.

and as for the op, if you want an amsterdam like environment, look into oaksterdam. its norcal bay area and you can, as far as i know, buy herb at a store or coffee shop.

~1~ · 10-13-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SageTree

His choice to decrim could also just be used somehow as further backing to just take the big step and stop fucking around.

Arnie is on his way out, he aint doin' the Governator any more, this makes him look sweet on his way out the door with his adoring movie going public. Keep the real fan base alive. We'll see a work around the decriminalization issue come next year when the seats are filled and the politicos don't have to campaign for a bit.

There is just too much money in prohibition to let it die just because of a silly little thing like the will of the people.

**SageTree** · 10-13-2010, 07:47 PM

Ah Oh!! Just trying to keep it on the upsvillle Shaggy.

but your probably right.....

profit · 10-15-2010, 06:17 PM

i really have to agree with no1 and i really, really hope that the decriminalization does not affect prop19.

prop19 for freedom.
stop the government from taking away our liberties. fuck you federal govt.

Rubix · 10-16-2010, 12:35 AM

yea, for sure taht is the biggest obstacle they face .

i'm so worried about Nov2

OldMan&TheWeed · 10-16-2010, 07:15 AM

Prop 19, if it passes, will be a mixed blessing.

Certain penalties (small-scale growing and possession) will go away, while other cannabis related offenses (suppling anyone under 21) will become draconian.

SublimeStylez · 10-25-2010, 07:55 AM

Oaksterdam is a fucking scam

10-13-2010, 12:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
doobie Decade Yahookan Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: U.S. Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	California decriminalization With the governor decriminalizing marijuana for ounce or less possession to a $100 fine and no criminal history that takes effect on 1/1/11 what is the feeling in california? I would seriously consider moving there if its going to be as lax as the netherlands or so.. whats the scoop? __________________ U must remember this one thing my friend. You can swim in a red river but you must not drink from a red river.

10-13-2010, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Rev Clear Light Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In my head, somewhere. Posts: 17,867 Thanks: 5,019 Thanked 5,421 Times in 2,865 Posts	There are few threads in A&P where the debate over this issue continues still. I think we're all hoping for something a little better in California after all is said and done. The Rev __________________ Budforce - My Friend August 29, 1973- May 25, 2012

10-13-2010, 04:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
~1~ Successful Failure Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: where 'they' can't see. Posts: 10,925 Thanks: 466 Thanked 1,581 Times in 925 Posts	Sadly it is a ploy to circumvent Prop. 19 Folks who may have been for legalizing because they see the current laws as a bit harsh and feel marijuana isn't as bad as it's cracked up to be might support Prop. 19 on principal. Arnie comes along and says "Okay, we'll decriminalize" so those folks who may have voted for complete legalization now feel, well okay they're not going to get 'as busted' as they would have before so no need to go opening those flood gates of evil that LEO has been diligently holding tight since the thirties. Let's see how it shakes out between Nov. 2nd and Jan. 1st. __________________ "And those who are successful, be always on your guard. Success walks hand in hand with failure, along Hollywood Boulevard" Ray Davies --------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- Click Here Asshole

10-13-2010, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,769 Times in 4,664 Posts	His choice to decrim could also just be used somehow as further backing to just take the big step and stop fucking around. __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

10-13-2010, 07:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	As a Californian I have to say it's a move in the right direction. It matters little if prop 19 wins or looses; the tide has turned in the marijuana debate as it has in the gay-rights debate. Anyone on the other side of these issues is on the wrong side of history period. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

10-13-2010, 07:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mafoo nice daze Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: the anguish of anticipated transformation Posts: 5,975 Thanks: 3,776 Thanked 2,652 Times in 1,698 Posts	anyone know if this will be retroactive? as in will my pot ticket from several years ago be removed from my file at the court house? that would be sweet. and as for the op, if you want an amsterdam like environment, look into oaksterdam. its norcal bay area and you can, as far as i know, buy herb at a store or coffee shop. __________________ PLUR For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return

10-13-2010, 07:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
SageTree ~Kalyāṇa-mitrā~ Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In Love Posts: 23,414 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 13,070 Thanked 6,769 Times in 4,664 Posts	Ah Oh!! Just trying to keep it on the upsvillle Shaggy. but your probably right..... __________________ "What's oppressive is letting your life be confined by old definitions of what everything is." -Zen Meister my_scatterheart YaHooka is.... Cannabis lovers from around the world pulling up a comfy chair, picking up a vaporizer, a bong, a brownie, a pipe, or a joint, getting high, stoned, buzzed or healthy. Uniting our minds in conversation...While Portraying a Positive Image of marijuana and marijuana users to the world. Treat your fellow YaHookans with kindness,respect and tolerance.

10-15-2010, 06:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
profit restore the republic Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 818 Thanked 357 Times in 237 Posts	i really have to agree with no1 and i really, really hope that the decriminalization does not affect prop19. prop19 for freedom. stop the government from taking away our liberties. fuck you federal govt. __________________ Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. follow https://twitter.com/#!/curtiswm - sub http://www.youtube.com/user/66sicksfishstix

10-16-2010, 07:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
OldMan&TheWeed been there done that Join Date: May 2006 Location: The West Posts: 2,281 Thanks: 294 Thanked 800 Times in 406 Posts	Prop 19, if it passes, will be a mixed blessing. Certain penalties (small-scale growing and possession) will go away, while other cannabis related offenses (suppling anyone under 21) will become draconian. __________________ Nintey-three percent of what I say is brilliant, factual information and seven percent is complete bullshit. Have fun deciding which is which.

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