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Old 11-24-2008, 04:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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the way i've always done it is make oil using wood alcohols to extract the thc and cook it off (it evaporates pretty fast at the right temperature) them combine it with keef until it's the right consistency. Fucking awesome stuff, total hippy crack.

99 isopropyl works good too, but pulls a lot of chlorophyll. the wood alcohol strips the thc off and leaves most of the plant behind. OP is not kidding, very volatile. and the fumes will fuck you up in a bad way so proper ventilation is necessary.

comes out looking like


fudge


edit: sorry, not wood alcohol. well, not technically. it was some kind of naptha that is now really restricted. i can't remember the name but it made liquid gold. it would also eat plastic. not the nicest stuff around, but it sure did the job. the guy i learned the technique from was a sort of chemistry whiz and he explained to me all about the platelets and everything. then i got high and forgot.

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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acetone pulls out a lot of unwanted things very quickly/easily like chlorophyll

isn't wood alcohol methanol?

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A) See the recipe I posted is for QUICK WASH ISOPROPYL ALCHOHOL HASHISH, do you know the appropriete times for a wash at 70%, 50%, etc isopropyl if so you should have posted that. Water ruins the efficiency of a wash. Try using 70% in a salvinorin extraction and you will be gravely upset with you outcome...

B)What's wrong with using PVC. I see no information on it being poor at cold temperatures? It is easily found and easily disposed. From the dozens of times me and my friends have made honey we to this day have no issues. Is it harder to drill through stainless steal?

I do agree I should edit it and mention to use pure butane, but you have to realize that if you are using lighter fluid... ... It leaves the same residues behind as a butane lighter does.

ALSO - You freeze and then thaw the cannabis before the extraction to loosen it's cellular structure... And that is optional.

C) Parchment paper works as well, I have only used that method a few times, I just find that wax paper is a lot easier to fold up nice and snug, then parchment paper. However, it isn't true that wax paper is made from plastic...

You aren't burning the kief at any point... That is why you wet the news-paper, and no direct heat is applied. A low heat on a standard iron is fine. I have done this and I was never dissapointed... I mean Yeah we could just tell people to go buy pollen presses... Or they can use paper and water? What would the average smoker prefer, waiting a week to order a pollen press, smoking the keif or just doing this simple method?

END-This thread isn't for hash making experts. An expert wouldn't need to read this thread...DUH. This is to encourage people to try hashish.



If we're going to get into the idealism of hash making then I'd of written take an organic chemistry course and use only lab grade equipment and medicinal grade cannabis.
A) how would water ruin the efficacy of the wash?

B) PVC is not made to be used at very low temperatures, as well as some forms being reactive with butane. Here's a link to a PVC manufacturer data sheet If you cool a material from room temp to sub freezing, it will degrade. Here's a quote from another cannabis site "Non-Pyrex glass will not be able to take the rapid and large temperature changes caused by the very cold butane. Some plastics (especially PVCs) can be partially dissolved or broken down by butane, particularly after repeat exposure, and this could seriously contaminate your final product and damage your health" [URL="http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:I'm saying that pvc is at the very least questionable, and alternatives aren't too expensive but are a lot less questionable.

I guess you're saying in lighting it I'm consuming the same things as lower grade butane? The difference is that I'm not using my lighter to extract the hash, I'm using it to smoke it, and lighters burn relatively clean. Lately I've been using beeline to light bowls though, the taste is much better, I'd recommend it over lighters.

ALSO- I understood what you were saying about it loosening cell structures, but I was questioning whether it helped much in solvent extractions.

C) I was wrong about the plastic in wax paper, thanks for the correction. However parchment paper is safe to use at higher temps (unlike wax paper) and is more non-stick than wax paper making it another good alternative. I wasn't saying that you would be burning the kief in the process, or getting anywhere near it, I was just agreeing with you about pressed hash being nicer. Where does buying a pollen press come into this? I guess it takes more effort?

END- I was mistaken in saying that wax paper was made of plastic, but your calling my posts misinformation or rumor is wrong, I was providing additional relevant information for any hash maker, experienced or not.

The idealism of hash making would be interesting, but that's not what my post was, I was trying to point out practical things you can do to increase the potency and healthiness of their hash. Sure people could smoke out of aluminum cans and aluminum foil forever, it works, it's healthiness and quality is just lower than a glass pipe for example, my post is similar, only it doesn't cost as much as a nice piece of glass.

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Old 11-24-2008, 06:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i make kief hash with the oven typically. all wrapped up in wet newspaper.

i don't feel ambitious enough to create a step by step like you guys. awesome thread
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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yes, acetone. definitely not methanol. sorry, i was really high when i posted that yesterday. memory is shot.

one thing about the acetone is that it had to be ice cold when doing the rinse. i mean freezing. as in, we stored it in the freezer. it's a solvent so it can't freeze, but it helps somehow if it's really fucking cold. and everything has to be done fast. have everything already prepped before even opening the solvent container. acetone and isopropyl will pull water out of the air as long as they're exposed to it, and then you have to get rid of the water. sometimes when doing great-oil-cookoffs (like texas chili except with dope) we would get rid of all the solvent and there would be drops of water left behind, and getting rid of it is a pain in the ass. water definitely makes the process more complicated and annoying than it has to be, but i don't exactly know what you can do about it. having a good lab helps, but those are hard to come by.

my chemist friend and I discussed dozens of different solvents when we were making oil. apparently chloroform works really well, but good luck getting your hands on any. also, wear a ventilator if you're using that stuff LOL

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Old 11-25-2008, 12:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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it is possible to cook up chloroform pretty simply, however we won't get into that here. It's against forum rules I am sure and it's a pretty dangerous process(mess it up and you make a highly posionous gas).
 
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BUMP cuz I just smoked some home-made QWISO hash!
Also I updated the time needed for shaking the jar with 70% isopropyl alcohol.
 
Old 01-08-2009, 05:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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i love hash!

only smoked it though... everytime ive taken a rip of hash in a bong i feel like someone dumped cold water on my head... kinda like tingles all the way down my body.

good thread :]
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I have a small mason jar filled with trimming and more on the way. Sooner or later I'm going to do something with it. The stuff is coated and show up nice under a flashlight. It has to be 10-15% THC.
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Everyone in Yahooka should educate themselves and read this thread at least once. :che ers:
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