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Old 08-29-2007, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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N-p-k

I know, these letters are so cryptic.
N = Nitrogen
P = Phosphorous
K = Potassium (Potash)

During veg I have done very well with a generic 20-20-20, which is a good all-round nute... sorta.
During flower I want the centre number (the Phosphorous) to be at least double the end numbers.

Wow, that's basic, but an easy way to stay out of trouble while learning to grow.
Only by watching what the plant does after adding nutes will you be able to fine tune it. To most of us that means fine tuning the clone run LOL


A few words of warning. The N-P-K on the packaging can be wrong.
Hmmm, maybe saying "most likely wrong" is better.

Here's a little post I made some time back...

On some nutrients the N-P-K may seem low, like 5-1-1. On others it can be high like 15-30-15.
Nutrient values (N-P-K) are expressed as the total percentage of weight as packaged.
15-30-15 then means that 60% of the contents of that bottle (or whatever) you bought is made up of actual nutes.
The rest are chellates (break down the nutes for uptake by the roots) and fillers/carriers.

Powdered nutrients tend to have higher NPK values than liquid nutrients because they are not already partially diluted with water.

Organic Nutes usually have lower N-P-K numbers. But a word to the wise, organic nutes can and will burn your plants if you get to happy with them.

What really matters is how strong these nutrients are when diluted with water.
For that you need to find the PPM (parts per Million) of the mixture, which is checked by using a EC/TDS meter.
There is a manual way but I know it not.

I fly more by the seat of my pants I think
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Great info, thanks Weed man.
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since were on ferts just wondering here is fish emulsion good for veg and mg bloom booster good for flowering? also there was this one fert i forget whats it called but it brings the color back into your plants idk what do yall think about these ferts
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organics ftw. I love them, there so easy to use and make the buds oh so tastey. I just finished up a crop comparing a regular 15-35-15 and an organic mix and the organic just blew the regular one away.
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since were on ferts just wondering here is fish emulsion good for veg and mg bloom booster good for flowering? also there was this one fert i forget whats it called but it brings the color back into your plants idk what do yall think about these ferts
What is mg bloom booster?
Fish emulsion is good for veg and some mixed in with the flowering nutes part way into flower as well.
When using just Fish Emulsion you may have to use the odd feed of a flowering nute to balance things out.


I used to know a guy who used no nutes other than what he put in the soil too. Nice grows if memory serves.
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organics ftw. I love them, there so easy to use and make the buds oh so tastey. I just finished up a crop comparing a regular 15-35-15 and an organic mix and the organic just blew the regular one away.
What does ftw mean?

That taste difference is what keeps me into organics. Really makes it shine don't it?
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What is mg bloom booster?
Fish emulsion is good for veg and some mixed in with the flowering nutes part way into flower as well.
When using just Fish Emulsion you may have to use the odd feed of a flowering nute to balance things out.


I used to know a guy who used no nutes other than what he put in the soil too. Nice grows if memory serves.

miracle grow bloom booster
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Miracle grow? LOL
JK. that would do it for a flowering nute.
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ftw hey? I was thinking fuck the world.
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Miracle grow? LOL
JK. that would do it for a flowering nute.
its supposed to create big buds but idk never used it but was thinkin of using it
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I've been trying lots of stuff that lots of people say make big buds, but Phosphorous based bat guano has been my favorite so far.

Do it and then you can show us how good... or how not good it turns out to be.
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alright i will try that with my clones when i put them into flowering then i will let u know
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I've been using a soil mix of vermiculite, sphagnum moss, seaweed compost, shellfish compost, and aged cowshit,and feeding lightly 2 times per week with a mix of bottled water, fish emulsion,seaweed extract, and some plant hormone shit... they are absolutely kickin ass... in thier 3rd week from seed, and are just coming with their 5th set of leaves... I'm going to have to go to 12/12 soon
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and for flowering, african violet food works well... has a higher mid #
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I hear good things about Fox Farm nutrients for flowering...
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Fish tank water for Micro- nutrients can't be beat!
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^does that go for salty aqarium waters too??
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^does that go for salty aqarium waters too??
NO! only if you are trying to kill your plants....
These are typical values for a saltwater tank...

Parameter: Reef Aquaria:

Salinity 35 ppt
specific gravity 1.026
Temperature 76-83 F

pH 7.8-8.5 OK 8.1-8.3 is better
Calcium 380-450 ppm
Magnesium 1250-1350 ppm
Phosphate < 0.03 ppm
Ammonia <0.1 ppm
Alkalinity 2.5-4 meq/L 7-11 dKH 125-200 ppm CaCO3 equivalents
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