N-p-k

Dandaweedman · 08-29-2007, 05:15 PM

I know, these letters are so cryptic.
N = Nitrogen
P = Phosphorous
K = Potassium (Potash)

During veg I have done very well with a generic 20-20-20, which is a good all-round nute... sorta.
During flower I want the centre number (the Phosphorous) to be at least double the end numbers.

Wow, that's basic, but an easy way to stay out of trouble while learning to grow.
Only by watching what the plant does after adding nutes will you be able to fine tune it. To most of us that means fine tuning the clone run LOL

A few words of warning. The N-P-K on the packaging can be wrong.
Hmmm, maybe saying "most likely wrong" is better.

Here's a little post I made some time back...

On some nutrients the N-P-K may seem low, like 5-1-1. On others it can be high like 15-30-15.
Nutrient values (N-P-K) are expressed as the total percentage of weight as packaged.
15-30-15 then means that 60% of the contents of that bottle (or whatever) you bought is made up of actual nutes.
The rest are chellates (break down the nutes for uptake by the roots) and fillers/carriers.

Powdered nutrients tend to have higher NPK values than liquid nutrients because they are not already partially diluted with water.

Organic Nutes usually have lower N-P-K numbers. But a word to the wise, organic nutes can and will burn your plants if you get to happy with them.

What really matters is how strong these nutrients are when diluted with water.
For that you need to find the PPM (parts per Million) of the mixture, which is checked by using a EC/TDS meter.
There is a manual way but I know it not.

I fly more by the seat of my pants I think

squash · 09-02-2007, 10:32 AM

Great info, thanks Weed man.

tim8abug · 09-02-2007, 12:16 PM

good to know,

thanks

Yoda Got Stoned · 09-02-2007, 12:22 PM

since were on ferts just wondering here is fish emulsion good for veg and mg bloom booster good for flowering? also there was this one fert i forget whats it called but it brings the color back into your plants idk what do yall think about these ferts

SublimeStylez · 09-02-2007, 12:34 PM

organics ftw. I love them, there so easy to use and make the buds oh so tastey. I just finished up a crop comparing a regular 15-35-15 and an organic mix and the organic just blew the regular one away.

Dandaweedman · 09-02-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda Got Stoned

since were on ferts just wondering here is fish emulsion good for veg and mg bloom booster good for flowering? also there was this one fert i forget whats it called but it brings the color back into your plants idk what do yall think about these ferts

What is mg bloom booster?
Fish emulsion is good for veg and some mixed in with the flowering nutes part way into flower as well.
When using just Fish Emulsion you may have to use the odd feed of a flowering nute to balance things out.

I used to know a guy who used no nutes other than what he put in the soil too. Nice grows if memory serves.

Dandaweedman · 09-02-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SublimeStylez

organics ftw. I love them, there so easy to use and make the buds oh so tastey. I just finished up a crop comparing a regular 15-35-15 and an organic mix and the organic just blew the regular one away.

What does ftw mean?

That taste difference is what keeps me into organics. Really makes it shine don't it?

SublimeStylez · 09-02-2007, 01:42 PM

ftw= for the win

Yoda Got Stoned · 09-02-2007, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

What is mg bloom booster?
Fish emulsion is good for veg and some mixed in with the flowering nutes part way into flower as well.
When using just Fish Emulsion you may have to use the odd feed of a flowering nute to balance things out.

I used to know a guy who used no nutes other than what he put in the soil too. Nice grows if memory serves.

miracle grow bloom booster

Dandaweedman · 09-02-2007, 07:06 PM

Miracle grow?

LOL
JK. that would do it for a flowering nute.

Dandaweedman · 09-02-2007, 07:06 PM

ftw hey? I was thinking fuck the world.

Yoda Got Stoned · 09-02-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dandaweedman

Miracle grow?

LOL
JK. that would do it for a flowering nute.

its supposed to create big buds but idk never used it but was thinkin of using it

Dandaweedman · 09-02-2007, 08:56 PM

I've been trying lots of stuff that lots of people say make big buds, but Phosphorous based bat guano has been my favorite so far.

Do it and then you can show us how good... or how not good it turns out to be.

Yoda Got Stoned · 09-02-2007, 09:04 PM

alright i will try that with my clones when i put them into flowering then i will let u know

newbiegreengrow · 09-04-2007, 07:50 PM

I've been using a soil mix of vermiculite, sphagnum moss, seaweed compost, shellfish compost, and aged cowshit,and feeding lightly 2 times per week with a mix of bottled water, fish emulsion,seaweed extract, and some plant hormone shit... they are absolutely kickin ass... in thier 3rd week from seed, and are just coming with their 5th set of leaves... I'm going to have to go to 12/12 soon

newbiegreengrow · 09-04-2007, 07:51 PM

and for flowering, african violet food works well... has a higher mid #

BKKG · 09-04-2007, 10:11 PM

I hear good things about Fox Farm nutrients for flowering...

08-29-2007, 05:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	N-p-k I know, these letters are so cryptic. N = Nitrogen P = Phosphorous K = Potassium (Potash) During veg I have done very well with a generic 20-20-20, which is a good all-round nute... sorta. During flower I want the centre number (the Phosphorous) to be at least double the end numbers. Wow, that's basic, but an easy way to stay out of trouble while learning to grow. Only by watching what the plant does after adding nutes will you be able to fine tune it. To most of us that means fine tuning the clone run LOL A few words of warning. The N-P-K on the packaging can be wrong. Hmmm, maybe saying "most likely wrong" is better. Here's a little post I made some time back... On some nutrients the N-P-K may seem low, like 5-1-1. On others it can be high like 15-30-15. Nutrient values (N-P-K) are expressed as the total percentage of weight as packaged. 15-30-15 then means that 60% of the contents of that bottle (or whatever) you bought is made up of actual nutes. The rest are chellates (break down the nutes for uptake by the roots) and fillers/carriers. Powdered nutrients tend to have higher NPK values than liquid nutrients because they are not already partially diluted with water. Organic Nutes usually have lower N-P-K numbers. But a word to the wise, organic nutes can and will burn your plants if you get to happy with them. What really matters is how strong these nutrients are when diluted with water. For that you need to find the PPM (parts per Million) of the mixture, which is checked by using a EC/TDS meter. There is a manual way but I know it not. I fly more by the seat of my pants I think __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

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09-02-2007, 07:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	Miracle grow? LOL JK. that would do it for a flowering nute. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

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Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	ftw hey? I was thinking fuck the world. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

09-02-2007, 08:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dandaweedman Old School Join Date: May 2004 Location: At the Cabana Posts: 7,414 Thanks: 699 Thanked 760 Times in 613 Posts	I've been trying lots of stuff that lots of people say make big buds, but Phosphorous based bat guano has been my favorite so far. Do it and then you can show us how good... or how not good it turns out to be. __________________ Hanging in the Cabana

09-02-2007, 10:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
squash YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great info, thanks Weed man.

09-02-2007, 12:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Yoda Got Stoned YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	since were on ferts just wondering here is fish emulsion good for veg and mg bloom booster good for flowering? also there was this one fert i forget whats it called but it brings the color back into your plants idk what do yall think about these ferts

09-02-2007, 09:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Yoda Got Stoned YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	alright i will try that with my clones when i put them into flowering then i will let u know

09-04-2007, 07:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 214 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	I've been using a soil mix of vermiculite, sphagnum moss, seaweed compost, shellfish compost, and aged cowshit,and feeding lightly 2 times per week with a mix of bottled water, fish emulsion,seaweed extract, and some plant hormone shit... they are absolutely kickin ass... in thier 3rd week from seed, and are just coming with their 5th set of leaves... I'm going to have to go to 12/12 soon

09-04-2007, 07:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
newbiegreengrow YaHookan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Van Down By The River Posts: 214 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	and for flowering, african violet food works well... has a higher mid #

09-04-2007, 10:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
BKKG YaHookan Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I hear good things about Fox Farm nutrients for flowering...

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