Rubix

i've been drunk every night pretty much for the last 50 days, only been 21 for not quite two months.

Anyone else same age fall into same trap?

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The Rev

I drank alot right around my 21st, because it was still a novelty to buy beer. It's the sudden freedom aspect, I guess.

Are you asking if you should go to AA because of this?



The Rev

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SageTree

On a scale of drunk 1-10 beers where do you position yourself?

Ultimately a 'problem' is only when it gets in the way of things you'd rather be doing or if it keeps you from doing what you 'aught'........

Like YaHooka.... we all have a problem with YaHooka

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Rubix

i like to have 6-8 or so shots before bed

sort of replaced my mephedrone habit

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turmaline

YOu coulda made the age 14.

I'd assume you think you have a proble, because this even came into your head I would assume you might have a problem.

I recommend checking out a meeting.

and remember there are alot of worse/recovered addicts than you....

I say this so you don't feel hopeless at any point.

Rubix

thanks turm, i can't attend meetings, but was wondering if anyone else here is also an addict

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turmaline

ahh I see.

turmaline

don't mock me Rudicks.

my_scatterheart

I know what you're saying, and it's a wildly accepted belief. However, I firmly believe that it's not always the case. I know for me, there were certain substances I was abusing heavily that didn't hinder my functioning, or my ability to get up at 6 am and go get my shit done. You can have a really bad problem and still be business. Don't ever fool yourself into thinking that you're okay just because you can still get to work on time, yanno. The thing about life is that the bottom line is really being in tune with yourself. No one can tell you you need to go to AA. At the end of the day you need to tell yourself.

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SageTree

I jive with what you're saying there and the last two sentences is basically what I was trying to imply or my intention in saying so was more to this vein of things. I thought they seemed like evaluations that only the self can give, not your boss keeping quiet or your family not commenting kind of 'success' in addiction.

Honest with yourself. And I think that is what you were saying? And I agree with that sentiment.

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my_scatterheart

oh werd, I gotcha. Nah, I just remember that explanation of "too far" in HS. "When it interferes." Well truth is, it doesn't have to interfere. Some of it can be fucking delightful yanno. Doesn't mean it's not a problem.

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SageTree

I feel as I've gotten older I evaluate this with herb from situation to situation.

One place I've seen great benefit from abstaining is when meditating. Shit can really mellow you out, until you sit and try to listen for a while. It really didn't still my mind at all any more, but I remember when I first started sitting it really helped.

I don't know what it was, but I just knew it was better for me to abstain. And also in the last year I've taken a month break almost once every three months, which has been an interesting place to reflect on usage anyways.

Another story is it used to seem like a really good idea to get stoned and go to family stuff, and then I realized that most of the weird was me being stoned.. don't get me wrong, they were still weird too, but I was in a place where I could steer the convo instead of being smoked up and going on a ride. So while it's fun to smoke up with my sister on the way to places still, I take like a puff or two instead of burning a fatty.


/personal reflection

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toastyroach

This is awesome advise. Fact is, you could maintain a hardcord physical/mental addiction for a relatively long time, succeeeding thru life unaffection (self proclaimed 'functioning addicts'). HA, that is before you run out of money. Maybe you have a kid, or buy a house, or lose your high paying job and cant find one for awhile. This is how ppl wind up losing their careers, homes, families, etc, just because nothing else matters but getting high. 'Powerlessness over your own addictions.' The true definition of an Addict is not subjective - its someone who CANNOT STOP USING EVEN THOUGH THO THEY WANT TO. Some spend all their money and loses their place to live, and keeps using. People who cry like a baby when they are going to buy their drugs.

Like, the first time you're late to work because youre up sick as a dog at 7AM and waiting for your friend to get back from the dr. before you can leave for work... i think thats when you gotta look at the first step lol..

And I'm not really a big fan of AA/NA.. I do see how it has helped a lot of people. I've been to plenty of meetings. But the truth is the program can be a dangerous place. I mean, the whole mantra of the program is 'to stop the old myth that once an addict, always an addict'...

Yet at the same time, N/AA contradicts itself when it then says 'to keep going to meetings (foreever) and keep repeateing the 12 steps (forever) and guide newcomes through the process (forever). I've seen 60+ year old men on frequent basis at meetings. I also hate how it promotes complete abstination. If you have 30 days or one year clean from opiates, but you still smoke weeed, you should be able to celebrate, not be embarressed/judged/alienated/etc...

I understand that the traditional program DOES work for MANY people. These are people who cannot stop using WITHOUT this program. And AA writes this right into their literature.

But AA/etc is nothing more then a step-by-step guide to how to become a spiritual person. It's goal is nothing different then say, the bible or quaran. It's religion for junkies. This is because for many junkies, the only way to get clean is to grow spiritually. This is nothing different then say, child molestation victims turn out to be born-again christians. The need to re-program our own brains to have a connection to a higher power, in order to keep our own sanity and be happy person in control of our own minds. Many people who never even touched a drug do this same thing (they go to church on sundays/etc). It's part of the human condition...

Sounds to me we need a 12 step program that says 'we stop the myth of once an addict, always an addict to recovery'. I think I'd rahter die a junkie then be that guy at meetings 10 years+ who counts his clean time in days and is all like 'i have 5,383 days cllean...'

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Mikey

yeah if you switch night for all day and all night
and add like two zeros to the 50

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Captain Cannabis

when i turned 18 (legal drinking age) alcohol was not a big mystery. i was in grade 12 and we first started experimenting with alcohol (without parental supervision) around age 14. if you make something forbidden and mysterious, it will always be more desirable when you finally are allowed to have it.

my dad and i make wine and beer, and my dad has been making them since long before i was born. i grew up around it and learned that there is an appropriate time and an appropriate way to use alcohol. of course, part of the fun of growing up is figuring out exactly what level of alcohol intake is right for you in a given situation. this involves crossing the line of reasonableness on occaision. going on a bender is fun for a while, but after a week or two i start to notice my body is taking serious damage. alcoholism and addiction are a pretty big problem in my family, so i have to be a bit careful. i am more comfortable drinking casually. sometimes that means i will have 1 or 2 beers every day for a long time, which i think is okay. getting drunk multiple days/weeks in a row doesn't do any good for my mind.

i am not saying that you are doing it wrong and have to cut down or you'll die, but you should at least thing of thelong term and try to be safe in that regard. good luck rubix.

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Mafoo

ive always been more of a binger than a constant drinker. although when school is in sesion i like to have a glass of wine or beer while studying. in a way it kinda helps me focus on the school work rather than wanting to be doing something else

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Roach

what toasty says is pure truth.

how sincere are you about having control over your addictive personality ?

working any type of recovery program means keeping away from all forms of altering substances, for as long as necessary .

sounds more like just binge-ing...BUT

It's when you no longer have the will to choose to stop...that's when you create problems.

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mrprobation420

im a recent AA/NA member ive only been completely sober since october 30th. this is the longest ive been sober since i was in 7th grade.... im what you call "poly-addicted" which is addicted to more then 2 groups of drugs. ive always been liked by just about everyone ive encountered and it always made me sick because ive always hated myself and i still do as of this moment while im writing this. i started with weed way back when it was something to do but i always tried to go bigger then started binge drinkin at 14 and smoking. wasnt enough. by 17 i found pills opiates where strong but xanax was my baby. i thought i had found it then i started to drink and take xanax to get even more fucked up. that got old so i started with coke at 18 to keep me awake to take more of the xanax and drink more. that didnt do it so i started to do anything including everypill imaginable to crack and herion. i have phobia of needles so ive never used anything I.V. route but i started to get so outta control i had a seizure at work from going cold turkey from the xanax. then i hurt so bad after that i was drinking everyday till blackout w/xanax and that was just for maintence so i wouldnt withdrawal. to curb hangovers id wake up and eat xanax and narcos or oc's for breakfast. working fulltime and waking up at 6am 13 outa 14 days.

this year ive driven drunk every single day with felony amounts of drugs on me at all times because id have panic attacks from not having somthing for pain or paranoia. i was selling drugs hanging out in detroit dope houses drinking and popping pills and snorting coke and or herion with my dealers. now being sober thinking of how fucked up i was on behind the wheel it makes me want to cry not because i could of died but because i could of hurt so many people.

in october i tried to overdose 4 times that i can remember. i was taking 80mg op's (r.i.p. O.c's) while already having a fifth of vodka in me and numerous xanax bars and sniffing coke all day. and sometimes adding extacy to the mix. the fact im still alive must mean theres some reason im here. friends of mine started to not hangout with me in fear of me overdosing around them.

when i finally went to rehab i figured out that im missing something and i just tried to fill it with any and every drug i could and none of them worked and mixing all of them didnt work. i just would feel worse with everyday that passed. now that im home from rehab i found that the best feeling is giving away what ive gotten from rehab. i might sound like an AA/NA book but ive found for me its true. i try to do something good or right atleast one thing everyday for someone else wether im asked to or not. but i dont do it for them i do it for the feeling it gives me knowing im not hurtingt anyone or myself in the actions i preform. im still far from ok but this helps me alot.

ive been to so many shrinks and counsiling sessions in my life since i was a child. im 21 years old today and nothing ever sank in for me till i actually went to inpatient rehab.

i know for a fact you cant feel good when you wake up if your drinking every night. you probably wake up tired mabye with indegestion or a headache or upset stomach. if not thats just the begining. i had been so fucked up for so long on my 21st birthday my gift to me was staying sober. the only way i made that possible was by picking up a 8hr evening shift at the job i had.

how fun is that i celebrated the birthday everyone parties the hardest on by working and going home and sleeping. i just turned 21 this year actually on 4-20... so you arent a mad raging alcoholic at all just for a 50 day binge but it starts out as a fun binge and eventually can turn into something that can ruin your life.

i think everyone can benifit from an AA/NA meeting. you might want to just go sit in one they are free. you might just scare yourself straight after you hear a few war stories see the people around you and hear how they destroyed their lifes at one point and how great shit has been for them and is since they stopped with the drugs and booze..

so yea im a major addict/alcoholic that comes from a long line of both

emilyblunt

Is constant drinking a form of alcoholism? I never drank everyday but I need to drink at least twice a week and I never failed. Everytime I say I'll quit drinking, a friend calls me or sends me a text message inviting me to a party or just a night of drinking at home like it's a sign from the heavens telling me it's not time to quit.