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Old 01-24-2009, 02:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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fishing!

who here likes fishing?

so the other day i went with my buddy jon fishing near merced falls. it was a great day outside. we got out there around 1 or so and jon led me to a spot i had never been to before, down the river. we had to hop a fence to get access to the area, looks like fishermen have been doing it for years, the barbed wire fence was all torn up and it was easy to get over. we made two trips to pack all our gear, way more comfort than was necessary with lawn chairs and a cooler with some beer.

jon and i made our way down to the river and we see the perfect spot, in the middle of the river are some rocks that form a little island. we had to exercise our balance and leaping skills to get out there but it was worth it. we got a little high and started fishing and almost right away the fishing was excellent. jon had a ridiculous set up, he was using spinners on a reel with line way to heavy for that. he was barely able to cast even 10 feet but that was apparently good because all the fish were right next to him. he caught brook after brook. i tried his set up and caught one my first cast. i had never caught a brook before. i also had a rod set up with power eggs and a inflated worm and i was getting very consistent fish on this set up, in fact the bell would go off so much that i had trouble setting up a lure or drinking for that matter.

there were a few other guys there as well but we had the spot we were outfishing them. another great thing about that spot was there was a little pool in the middle so we could release our fish and then pick and choose which ones we wanted to keep later.

all the sudden this fat aggie looking dude comes down on an atv to the other side of the river from which we came and he starts flipping out hardcore on all of us for being there. i could barely hear what he was saying but i could tell he was pissed. it seemed like he had anger managment problems. he was cussing at all of us and im pretty sure he flipped us off as well. all we were doin was fishing. i dont know if it was his property or someone he knew owned the property but he made it clear we werent supposed to be there so jon and i bolted, managing to carry all of our stuff back in one trip. i was kind of shocked with just how bad this guy flipped out, i can understand him being kind of angry if it was indeed his property(looked to us like it was PG&E's), but to go batshit insane over it seems unreasonable. we would have asked for permission if we know if there was anyone to ask. besides how do you own a river? im not saying they shouldnt be allowed to own the property around it but i dont think it should at all be allowed to prevent people from accessing the river. anyway we layed low and then went back for our fish. overall it was a great day of fishing even that deuche couldnt ruin it.

heres the ones we kept, cooked, and served our friends with french fries
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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nice story man.

you were still on his property and it was obvious they didnt want anybody there with the fences and barbed wire. if you were in a boat however, he couldnt do anything
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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those are beautiful looking brooks my friend!!!!


I work at a flyfishing shop, have been for 5 years now... we work on the missouri river... which has amazing blue ribbon rainbow/brown trout fishing


ive actually never seen such healthy brookies before,, they look fat and happy little footballs thats for sure. the average fish below holter damn is 16-22 inches.. which is insane,, its like 1600 fish per acre or some shit too which is amazing


the only difference is im a fly fisher, not dat bate crap... lol only jokes, i do both quite frequenntly depending on situations.

happy fishing, and you always get people like that man, come to montana where the stream regs are free fishing below high water mark... thats real fishing country
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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fuck yeah that one is a fucking pig of a trout.

very nice gypsy.


and bongos spot on; i madly wanna fish montana.







oh and fly fishing ftw

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Old 01-24-2009, 02:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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those are beautiful looking brooks my friend!!!!


I work at a flyfishing shop, have been for 5 years now... we work on the missouri river... which has amazing blue ribbon rainbow/brown trout fishing


ive actually never seen such healthy brookies before,, they look fat and happy little footballs thats for sure. the average fish below holter damn is 16-22 inches.. which is insane,, its like 1600 fish per acre or some shit too which is amazing


the only difference is im a fly fisher, not dat bate crap... lol only jokes, i do both quite frequenntly depending on situations.

happy fishing, and you always get people like that man, come to montana where the stream regs are free fishing below high water mark... thats real fishing country
my bro took me fly fishing and bought me a rod for gr. 8 grad. i love it. ive been doin it every spring and fall since.
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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wow thats really cool anita. I love girls who fish, its so serene going out and catching a fish and releasing it. and it is just fun for both of you. thats really cool that you have been fishing for awhile, makes me jelous and wants to take you out to fish


come to montana!
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My buddy enlightened me on just such a thing. He has a very nice fishing river running through his property behind his house. He owns 160 acres and breeds horses and peacocks. People are constantly leaving his horse gates open, cutting holes through his fencing or climbing over and wrecking the wiring. Any body on his land is his responsibility and he can be sued if they fall in a hole or whatever. People leave their garbage behind and piss and shit all around the property. they play loud radios or are loud talkers who interrupt his peacefulness and set the peacocks squalling and squawking all day. He has no way to ascertain who are good and who are bad. He only let's those who "Ask" permission to access his land entry. On everyone else, he calls the cops and has them ticketed. He owns the land on which the river flows, but he does not own the river. If you are afloat he can say nothing. If you are standing in the water you are technically on his land and are trespassing.
well i can understand him being mad that we were on his property i dont fault him for that, but to go batshit insane was uncalled for. i told him "ok we are leaving" and started packing up and he was still going off. i can especially understand people getting mad if they owned livestock or other valuable property on that land but this area i was fishing had literally nothing around it just a short stretch of land and then the river. plus im not even sure it was his property cause it really looked like pacific gas and electric owned it.

bongobongo-i have never been fly fishing, id love to try it out. i dont think id be much good my casting skills with a standard spinning reel arent even that good.
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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pg& e have an easement to use the property overhead or underground ,but do not own it.

only the pipes/wires that run thru it.

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An easement is the right or freedom to do something or the right to prevent someone else from doing something over the real property of another. At common law, an easement came to be treated as a property right in itself and is still treated as a kind of property by most jurisdictions. In some jurisdictions, another term for easement is equitable servitude, although easements do not have their origin in equity.

The right is often described as the right to use the land of another for a special purpose. Unlike a lease, an easement does not give the holder a right of "possession" of the property, only a right of use. It is distinguished from a licence that only gives one a personal privilege to do something even more limited on the land of another. An example of a license is the right to park a car in a parking lot with the consent of the parking lot owner. Licences in general can be terminated by the property owner much more easily than easements. This is similar to but not the same as a wayleave. Easements also differ from licences in that most easements ("easements appurtenant") are attached to and benefit another parcel of land, not a specific person. This means that a property that enjoys an easement over another will continue to enjoy the easement even if the property gets transferred to a different owner. Other easements ("easements in gross") benefit a specific person.
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i like fishing but i dont like the fact that many fish species and natural animal populations are on the verge of collapse which is why i dont do it more and if i do fish i release what i catch. but i go saltwater surfcast fishing which is very different from trout fishing. mainly catch stripers (preferably) and bluefish (not that good too eat but give a huge fight and very common)

what is the legal catch limit for those trout? you seem to have slaughtered many of them...
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Old 01-24-2009, 10:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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tedkennedy-the limit is five per person and we kept 3 each. we dont usually eat a bunch of them cause we are lazy, but these are not native fish they are stocked by the department of fish and game.
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I love fishing. never been fly fishing though, but I intend to try it some time.

the best fishing I did was in Rocky Island Lake, Ontario..a chain of about a thousand lakes all surrounded by mountains and evergreen trees. it was actually logging territory. it was pretty remote, I was told it was an 8 hour helicopter ride to the nearest hospital.

anyhow there were all kinds of wildlife I'd never seen, a bear and a moose being the ones I particularly remember. we paddled out in canoes and fished from about 6 AM till 6 PM everyday for a week. the water was so clean you could dip your cup in it and drink it, best water i've ever tasted.

as far as I know there were only 3 kinds of fish..walleye, northern pike, and whitefish. we gutted and ate every one we caught and it was, of course, the best tasting fish I'd ever had.

I also would like to go fishing in Montana, as others have mentioned. But hell I'd go fishing anywhere
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Killing spawning salmon is fairly stupid, if you were on my land i would have beaten the absolute shit out of you.
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Old 01-25-2009, 11:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Killing spawning salmon is fairly stupid, if you were on my land i would have beaten the absolute shit out of you.
...are you being serious right now? those are TROUT. not only are they trout but they are planted trout, they were raised in fish farms and put there by man
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Killing spawning salmon is fairly stupid, if you were on my land i would have beaten the absolute shit out of you.

totally nun, even spawning trout i wont catch because trout isnt all that great anyway, the bigger being the nastiest. smaller trout are good if your camping or something, but i wouldnt really go out to catch some if i could make something at home, or go and buy some at the store. but to each his own, I would DEFINETLY not kill spawning salmon, and surely not trout, but catching them and releasing totally.
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...are you being serious right now? those are TROUT. not only are they trout but they are planted trout, they were raised in fish farms and put there by man
lol i used to work on a trout farm sadly I didn't stare at the photo deeply, i just did the standard 4, head, tail, fins, jaw.. Noticed a massive difference between the hen rainbow and the brooks.

If you catch a salmon here right now it will look nigh identical to that, as being the end of January, is right in the middle of their spawning run, and they'll have the hunched backs, which is a pretty unusual occurrence in trout, I don't have experience with Brook, but Cannibal Brown's (google em) tend to develop them over throughout their life, anyhow i digress, salmon and trout are literally just brothers from another mother, plus being accused of catching salmon is hardly an insult to 99% of Anglers, and they're all sweet looking fish.

edit: We have this on some lame tea towel here, tell me they're not similar to spawning chinooks?

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tedkennedy-the limit is five per person and we kept 3 each. we dont usually eat a bunch of them cause we are lazy, but these are not native fish they are stocked by the department of fish and game.
i feel ya.
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lol i used to work on a trout farm sadly I didn't stare at the photo deeply, i just did the standard 4, head, tail, fins, jaw.. Noticed a massive difference between the hen rainbow and the brooks.

If you catch a salmon here right now it will look nigh identical to that, as being the end of January, is right in the middle of their spawning run, and they'll have the hunched backs, which is a pretty unusual occurrence in trout, I don't have experience with Brook, but Cannibal Brown's (google em) tend to develop them over throughout their life, anyhow i digress, salmon and trout are literally just brothers from another mother, plus being accused of catching salmon is hardly an insult to 99% of Anglers, and they're all sweet looking fish.

edit: We have this on some lame tea towel here, tell me they're not similar to spawning chinooks?

ya they look pretty similar, in fact one of our friends thought they were salmon.

you didnt like working at a fishery? im actually strongly considering changing my major to biology with a concentration in marine biology just so i can do something with fish, thus setting me back even further than i already am on time and money.
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There's a bigger issue at sake here...

... and it's why isn't your name green?
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you didnt like working at a fishery? .
lol nah i loved it, it's just kinda a "sad bastard" fact A mate lived on site, so all we did is smoke shitloads of weed, drive the atv's about and fish, was awesome in the summer.
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I don't fish much. Just last Spring I took my paddle boat out and caught about a 10" bass. I threw it back. I don't like to fish. I hate pulling the hook out, and they suffer too much. Besides, it's boring. I like to take my boat out in the middle of the lake and just go swimming. The rules for fishing are: always catch and release, chew tobacco the whole time, and don't fuckin stay near channels crowding up the traffic going to and from lakes.
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